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by Jason "XtremeFalls" Simmons
Originally Posted: August 4, 2006
You know over the past five years many wrestling fans and media alike have talked about the Death of WCW. The reasons were from flops of Russo and Warrior to the horrible handling of storylines. Another reason was the poor pushes of key wrestlers. Now you could say this about The Cruiserweights, Goldberg, and even the legendary Ric Flair. However one wrestler is always looked over but in my opinion really could of helped WCW from falling apart. This one man was another legend by the name of Curt Hennig.
Hennig was fresh off his release from the WWE and would sign with WCW in 1997. By this point in time Curt Hennig had a very successful run in not only the WWE but prior to that the AWA. He was a former AWA Champion and Tag Team Champion but Verne Gagne let Hennig slip through his fingers. Also a 2 time WWE Intercontinental Champion and one of their biggest stars of the early 90s. The one thing that hurt Hennig during his WWE run was a bad back that he was put out of action twice for extended periods. However heading into WCW Hennig finally seemed to be healthy.
Hennig was a big pick up for WCW because unlike most of the older WWE stars such as Piper, Hogan, Savage, and Warrior Hennig could still deliver in the ring. Also Hennig could carry himself on the microphone and was still a big name in the business. Curt Hennig could have changed things as him getting a main event push could have delivered some respectability to the main event division however this never happened. In this column I want to look over the perfect opportunity that WCW had and blew. Now the biggest question when Hennig showed up was who was Hennig going to be with? The Horsemen or The New World Order.
Hennig showed up and quickly became the talk of WCW with him turning down Flair but also turning down The New World Order. Hennig first act in WCW was a feud with Diamond Dallas Page. The two produced a great match at Road Wild 97 and while Hennig lost it was a great outing for him. Then Hennig really started to heat up on WCW television as The Horsemen continued to try to bring him into the elite stable. Flair and Hennig teamed up at Clash of the Champions beating Syxx and Konnan but Hennig still wouldn?t agree to join the Horsemen. Finally on August 25th 1997 Hennig accepted Arn Anderson?s spot in the 4 Horsemen in one of the greatest speeches in wrestling history. The fans were excited with Flair, Hennig, Mongo, and Benoit reforming the Four Horsemen and Hennig looked to be getting bigger by the moment in WCW.
However the next week The New World Order came out and parody the speech which set up an epic match for Fall Brawl 1997. The War Games match truly in my opinion not only started the downfall of Curt Hennig but WCW. The match started up with The Horsemen?s chances looking grim as Curt Hennig was founded injured backstage. The Horsemen were down 4-3 in the match and finally Hennig runs down to the ring wearing a sling to even the sides. Hennig took his arm out of the sling and had handcuffs and the fans in Carolina were going nuts. Then in typical WCW fashion Curt turned on the Four Horsemen by joining the New World Order and ended up slamming Ric Flair?s head with the cage door.
Why was this the start of the downfall you ask? Well first and foremost WCW once again looked inferior to The New World Order with Lex Luger and The Steiner Brothers losing in the previous months. Also this marked the end of the Horsemen as they would have one last run in late 1998 and early 1999 but by that point the magic was gone. Hennig was the biggest victim however. Not only was this the turning point in his WCW run but might have also been the fall from grace in the wrestling industry.
Anyway after Fall Brawl Flair dismantled the Horsemen and Hennig actually beat former Horsemen Steve Mongo McMichael for the United States Title. Hennig after winning the title would move straight into the feud with Ric Flair after Hennig claimed he killed the horsemen. Flair however would dominate Hennig at Halloween Havoc and get himself disqualified but Flair lost to Hennig in the rematch. This pretty much would end the feud and at Starrcade Hennig dropped the title to Diamond Dallas Page in another great match. After losing the title this left many saying now what?
WCW by this point brought in Bret Hart and Brian Adams so Curt Hennig who years earlier was one of the biggest stars in the business was once again left out in the cold. What should of WCW done by this point? Maybe have Hennig feud with Bret Hart who was at Summerslam 1991 and King of the Ring 1993 he had classic matches with. However WCW didn?t do any of that, in early 1998 Curt became a B-member of the New World Order. Until mid 1998 that is, when The New World Order finally split into two groups. Hennig decided to head to the Wolfpac while his friends Adams and Rude stayed in the Hollywood camp. However shortly after WCW blew their chance to make Hennig important and put him back in the Hollywood camp as a B member.
Hennig however got some good news when he was given a WCW title shot against newly crowned Champion Goldberg. However that good news soon turned into terrible news as WCW booked it as a squash feud. In two attempts Goldberg destroyed Curt Hennig and to make matters worst neither match was all that good. After this Hennig floated around for the rest of 1998 with a knee injury and nothing big happened. Hennig not only floated around but also once again became a B-member of the N.W.O Hollywood. Then Hennig looked to have another opportunity in 1999 to get a push.
The opportunity started during WCW?s infamous finger poke of doom, which was another huge blow to WCW. You see the next Thunder Hennig was kicked out of the N.W.O, which allowed him off the B-team of the New World Order. With the WCW Tag Title tournament going on Hennig found himself with a new veteran tag team partner in Barry Windham. Barry and Curt were a great combination of wrestlers WCW didn?t use well and formed one hell of a tag team. They won the titles after beating Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko in a great match. So while Hennig wasn?t as popular as he was in his first run in 1997 he was picking up steam.
Hennig would go on to lose the tag team titles to Benoit and Malenko in a rematch but Hennig had a plan. Soon after the end of the Benoit and Malenko feud WCW placed Hennig in a feud with Master P and his No Limit Soldiers. During this feud he created his own stable with Bobby Duncum Jr., and the Windham Brothers to form the West Texas Red Necks. WCW had the group release a country song called Rap is Crap. This is where WCW once again created a problem. You see the song was actually very funny and got airplay around the south. The problem with this was Master P and his No Limit soldiers were supposed to be the good guys but fans around the company were booing them out of the building.
The problem was WCW has always had its roots in the south which stereotype or not likes country music. So they were cheering Hennig and his crew instead of the babyfaces. So even though the Stable was very popular and actually getting over WCW saw fit to just cancel the feud and pretty much end all chances of making the group something big. So Hennig and the group stayed together until late October, which by that point had added Vincent into the group. So once again WCW blew an opportunity to get this guy over.
After the break up of the West Texas Red Necks WCW proceeded to do nothing with anyone in the group. Curt Hennig had a short pointless feud with Harlem Heat and then WCW once again proceeded to do nothing with him. Hennig pretty much drifted along in WCW until April of 2000. By this point WCW was a shell of its former self with Hennig being another lost soul. Vince Russo however had a plan for Hennig. Shawn Stasiak started a new gimmick that was a copy of Hennig?s Mr. Perfect Gimmick in WWE years earlier. The problem was just like everything else they did with Curt they dropped the ball. After Hennig confused most fans by helped Stasiak in a couple of matches while they were feuding and his contract finally ran out. That marked the end of Hennig?s WCW career.
It shouldn?t have ended up like this. While WCW had a love affair with veterans getting pushes Curt Hennig wasn?t one of them. Even though Curt could out perform most of the veterans on his worst day he still never got a great push. Even though Hennig got over with a couple of separate gimmicks WCW refused to push this man. Hennig could have helped reshape the company and turned a new corner in the N.W.O vs. WCW feud with the resurgence of the Horsemen. Goldberg could have had a solid challenger with Curt Hennig but instead of pushing the feud they were pushed back by Karl Malone and Dennis Rodman.
Hennig after WCW had a short run in the WWE and TNA before his untimely death in 2003. I think when you look back Hennig should be remembered for his runs in WWE and AWA. Also I think he should be remembered as someone who really could have made a difference in WCW. Maybe not of changed the outcome but could have slowed it down.
Thanks for reading and feedback will answered
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Interview Recap - Kaos vs Vampiro
Posted in Interview Recaps by Jack at 17:54, May 23 2008
by Neal Jones
Vampiro vs. Kaos IYH Interview Recap
by Neal Jones
Vampiro was the scheduled guest, and Kaos was the surprise guest on In Your Head Wrestling Online Radio hosted by Jack, OneInchBiceps and Barbie Richards. Listen live every Wednesday 8:00-10:00 PM EST at http://www.inyourheadonline.com and check out our full FREE archive section with over 3 years of archived interviews.
Vampiro was scheduled to come on IYH at 8 PM EST. He could not be reached, when his opponent at XPW Cold Day In Hell, ?the Triple Threat Superstar? Kaos called in.
XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Redondo Beach, CA
Kaos said Vampiro is always like this, he leaves everyone hanging. Kaos goes on to say Vampiro never lives up to promises, and tells a story about how Vampiro left him at the airport. Kaos hopes Vampiro shows up for their match at Cold Day in Hell.
Jack asks if Kaos has come across veterans with big heads. Kaos says he is a guy who brags about beating Hulk Hogan and Sting and doesn?t have time for the young guys.
Kaos talks about missing XPW, and ever since it?s demise in 2003 he has searched for a home. No locker room has compared to it, and everyone is really excited and wanting to prove themselves.
Jack asks if XPW guys were blackballed after XPW?s demise. Kaos says absolutely he and Webb, Pogo, Supreme etc were blackballed after the Heat Wave ECW PPV incident.
Kaos talks about admiring Vampiro and all he has done in wrestling. Going from a young Canadian kid who ate out of dumpsters and making a huge name for himself in Mexico. He thinks maybe Vamp sees Kaos as someone young and hungry to take his spot.
Kaos talks about the return of the Gangstas after about 10 years. New Jack and Mustafa didn?t get along well, and now they are back for one show.
Caller Jason asks what Kaos? favorite match was. Kaos talks about facing off with Dynamite D. Kaos talks about Supreme and their wrestling school. Kaos talks about the infamous match where Supreme was burned badly, they had a falling out but recently got back together. Jack mentions how Kaos still got the pinfall after Supreme was laid out and burned, Kaos said he was a little lost when he saw him charred but Supreme wanted a finish for the match.
Jack brings up Dynamite D ?Mr. 80?s?, who passed away a few years ago, and the tribute Battle Royal that will take place at XPW Cold Day In Hell. Kaos tells some stories of the different impersonations Dynamite D did.
Kaos talks about getting himself into the greatest shape of his life for his match with Vampiro. Jack asks if he thinks Vampiro is taking this match seriously. Kaos thinks Vampiro just sees him as a young chump, and he has has wrestled big names and might not be training hard for the comeback match.
Jack says the IYH Crew will be rooting Kaos on in the match with Vampiro because he now showed IYH tonight.
Caller Jason brings up Chris Hamrick as one of the most underrated wrestlers and his matches with Kaos being great. Kaos says Chris knows how to pop a crowd, work hold for hold, comedy he can do it all. Kaos talks about learning a lot just working with guys like Hamrick and Shane Douglas.
Kaos talks about ?The Dead Sleep Easy? movie with Vampiro, where he also no showed the premier of. Kaos talks about being in the movie with Aguilera and Luke Hawks. Kaos said Vamp was in and out of the set like a big star with a big head. Kaos says Vamp didn?t have respect for the smaller characters on the set.
Kaos puts over the Fan Fest at XPW Cold Day in Hell before the event.
XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Redondo Beach, CA
Kaos says Vampiro hasn?t wrestled for 3 years.
Kaos talks about working with Rob Black, and never having a problem with him. He credits Rob for his start in the business and exposure for a lot of guys.
Jack asks if the show does well, could XPW come back. Kaos says they want to focus on this one show being off the charts. If the show does well and the upcoming DVD?s sell well he could see it. Kaos says everyone had their hopes up for WSX, so he knows not to get too excited about anything.
Kaos hoped WSX was going to be everyone?s big break. He doesn?t believe MTV ever got behind the product. He thought it was a great experience and so different than anything else he ever did. Kaos liked the Fight Club look of the show.
Jack asks if the season being taped at once was frustrating because they couldn?t change the show the next week based off feedback. Kaos says that?s true plus it was a hectic schedule.
Caller El Santo asks if Kaos ever wrestled in AAA or CMLL. Kaos says he frequents NGS with Supreme, it is a supreme ECW based promotion. Kaos says as Konnan says Mexico is 10 years behind American wrestling and hardcore is taking off there.
Kaos doesn?t see Vampiro wrestling much longer. Kaos talks about Vampiro being in the Guardian Angels now, and he was in the group 20 years ago in California. Kaos sees Vamp doing it as a way to hide behind a group, just like he hides behind his make-up.
Caller Kronus asks about working with John Kronus. Kaos says he was one of the best guys in the locker room, he didn?t have a big head coming from ECW. Kaos talks about how tremendous Kronus was in the ring for a big guy, and the Eliminators finisher The Total Elimination being one of the best double team maneuvers ever.
Kaos compares Vampiro to Sean ?no show? Waltman.
Kaos talks about the WSX team with ?Jesus? Aguilera. He spent some time with him working on double team moves before WSX. Kaos personally wanted to be a singles but he felt the team worked well. Kaos says there was a lot of talk for the 2nd season of WSX, they had actually written 4 seasons and eventually the team was going to split and feud. Jack says Aguilera is an underrated promo guys, Kaos said that?s why Vince hired him because he was a good talker and the injuries were bad timings for him. Jack puts over Jesus?s suspenders. Kaos mentions Jesus pushed for him to wear suspenders in the tag team.
Kaos talks about the Miss Xtreme contest at the XPW Cold Day in Hell.
Caller Flea asks if XPW ever stopped any ideas the guys had. Kaos said no but maybe they should have liked the 30? scaffold or explosions. Kaos talks about XPW TV, and how crazy it was with all the vignettes. New fans are now discovering XPW on the DVD?s from www.bigvisionentertainment.com
Kaos talks about how XPW really innovated the DVDS and t-shirts on the Indy Wrestling scene. Now everyone has them, but XPW was the first one to do it. They even had DVD?s before WWE. Kaos credits Rob Black for the XPW DVD?s.
Kaos credits GQ Money for really helping him develop his promos. Jack asks about his falling out with GQ, Kaos says they can still work together but they are no longer friends and at one time they were really close. Kaos says he was against the Enterprise group at first, he thought he?d be lost in the shuffle. It was the total opposite and really catapulted his character.
Kaos talks about a lot of the footage being guerilla footage filmed at 3 on the morning in people?s garages and even a church. At times they would stop traffic and just film their stuff. Kaos talks about basing a lot of the scenes off of movies like Pulp Fiction, Clockwork Orange, Reservoir Dogs etc.
Jack asks who?s idea was it for Kaos to wrestle with the TV title on. Kaos says it was Rob Black?s idea. He couldn?t do his 450 splash, but he did bang up some of the guys like Hamrick and Danny Doring while wearing it.
Kaos talks about getting to see all these guys again either one more time, and hopes this is done right not like the Vince McMahon?s ECW. He believes there is still an audience for hardcore wrestling.
Jack asks if there is a spot for another TV product. Kaos thinks there is, he says a lot of good indys are out there, but there can be one at the next level. Kaos puts over the David Marquez NWA shows.
Kaos says Steve Austin motto DTA Don?t Trust Anyone is something you need to live by in the wrestling business. A lot of Indy guys need to stand up for themselves and not let promoters make false promises, and want you to kill yourself for them.
Kaos talks about how WWE looks for a certain look and style. It?s hard for a guy who can?t do a 3 minute match to get over or get called up.
Kaos tells all the fans to come to XPW Cold Day in Hell. It could be your last chance to see hardcore wrestling, plus dream matches like Supreme vs. Necro Butcher, Kaos vs. Vampiro, the return of the Gangstas and Terry Funk special ref for Sabu and Homeless Jimmy vs. Raven & Johnny Webb.
XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Redondo Beach, CA
Kaos says he thinks Vampiro has a big chip on his shoulder and doesn?t respect him or the show www.inyourheadonline.com Kaos says he pisses on everything Vampiro stands for. Kaos says he wants to use Vampiro as a stepping stone in his career.
Vampiro calls in 80 minutes late and confronts Kaos live on the show. Kaos tells him he is very disrespectful to himself, XPW and IYH.
Vampiro says he personally told people that Kaos had it, he put him in the movie and now he hears Kaos talking this stuff about him.
Kaos and Vampiro get into a verbal war over respect.
Vampiro says he specifically came back to wrestling to help XPW, and Kaos is ungrateful and doesn?t have the ability to draw people or get out of LA. Vampiro says Kaos blames his failures on other people. Vampiro says Kaos should go back to washing dishes and getting coffee for Kevin Kleinrock.
Kaos says Vampiro needs to put the nail in the coffin of his career. Vampiro says he has dealt with so many idiots like Kaos over his career. Vampiro doesn?t need to call people for work, people call him. Kaos says Vampiro is all about excuses and demanding things like a superstar. Vampiro says they go back a long way, he?s never cared about fame only the fans. Vampiro says Kaos will never hang with him.
Kaos and Vampiro talk about wanting to meet in a parking lot to fight, but they want to give the fans something special to see at XPW Cold Day in Hell.
XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Redondo Beach, CA
Vampiro talks about coming to the show to help out the young guys, and then he gets disrespected.
Jack asks if he sees himself in Kaos. Vampiro says no, he always showed respect to the veterans, he was brought up in the old school. Vampiro talks about Kaos sending bogus emails and messing up his plane tickets. Vampiro tried to help out Kaos in XPW, WSX and in Mexico. Vampiro says it is really hard to get people in wrestling to be your friend. He took Kaos under his wing, now he talks bad about him and blames Vampiro for not making it.
Vampiro talks about being in the federal police force in Mexico, and the Guardian Angels.
Vampiro talks about charisma being the biggest thing in not just wrestling but any form of entertainment. If you can?t connect with the fans you will never make it. Vampiro says Kaos just doesn?t connect with the fans and doesn?t have it.
Vampiro talks about fans asking him why he doesn?t wrestle anymore. He wants to come back as a Guardian Angel, to help use his popularity as a wrestler to help the Guardian Angels group.
Vampiro talks about all his injuries over 25 years. When he took off, he started feeling his injuries aching.
Caller Duane asks about Vince Russo. Vampiro says he never got along with Russo. He was so frustrated in WCW. He was at the height of his career and because of jealousy and ego he never got a shot. Vampiro felt like he was his most motivated, but Russo kept wanting to do stupid things with him.
Vampiro says Sting was an egomaniac and very jealous of him. He learned a lot working with him though and it was an honor.
Vampiro also talks a lot about working in Mexico, and Konnan. His time in WSX, and MTV not giving it a chance. The Guardian Angels in Mexico. His brief stay in TNA, where Shane Douglas puked all over the ring. His feud with Raven he wished was bigger, him almost going to ECW. Working with Rob Black and his memories of XPW.
Vampiro talks about the Warrior?s return in Spain for NWE. He will not be on the show, and thinks Warrior will be brutal and does not want to work with him.
Caller Jason asks about The Great Muta. Vampiro says it was one of his idols and huge for him to get a chance to meet and work with him. Vampiro puts over Muta?s moonsault and how people today do 100?s of big moves that don?t mean anything because they are never a finish.
Vampiro tells everyone to come and see him and all of the guys at XPW Cold Day in Hell, and he will be part of the Fan Fest as well.
XPW Cold Day In Hell
Saturday Night, May 24 2008
Redondo Beach, CA
To hear this nearly 3 hour show which includes a Kaos interview, Vampiro interview and a heated argument between the 2 in it?s entirety please visit http://www.inyourheadonline.com and live every Wednesday at 8 PM EST including this week with WWE Tough Enough Finalist Brian Danovich !!!
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